Don’t Talk About Politics

Sunday October 21stMiscellaneous Category

I’m about to break a cardinal rule. I’m going to talk about politics (but only briefly). If you’re not Australian, or don’t have an interest in Australian politics, I’d suggest you give this post a miss :)

Right now I’m sitting in front of the T.V. watching the Leaders Debate, and I have to say that I’m appalled at some of the utter dribble that is coming out of Kevin Rudd’s mouth. The man makes me cringe. He’s full of piss and wind, and constantly avoids answering questions. He doesn’t really ever say anything of substance. All he seems to do is try and pick holes in the current government. He’s an abhorrent little man, and I would be embarrassed to have him lead my country.

Dear God, please don’t let Labour win!

PS. I promise I’ll never post on politics again! :)

18 Comments

  1. OJ
    October 21, 2007

    It’s like watching a train smash. I hate it. I am cringing constantly over his comments, and how much of a hypocrite he is.

    But I can’t stop watching!

  2. dan
    October 21, 2007

    whatever you do, dont mention the war!

  3. Michael Princz
    October 22, 2007

    was the chap on the other side of the stage any better??????

  4. OJ
    October 22, 2007

    Yes. Hands down. Of course this is just my opinion, but the thought of Labour being in Federal Government is scary enough. But with RUDD as the leader?!? Jesus, it’s almost a worst nightmare. I can’t stand him.

  5. Michael Princz
    October 23, 2007

    OK why labour being in power, why Rudd and why your worst nightmare for me its and elephant on stilts walking across the crown jewels (gives me cold sweats every time)

  6. Vault-Co
    October 26, 2007

    Remember, Rudd may be a vegetable with an IQ around room temperature and the character of a soggy raspberry muffin, but the worse alternative is another couple years of John Howard.

    The Australian people seem to be in agreement with me, which is very rare indeed.

    If you have a leader who betrays your nation and his electorate by unilaterally turning it into an Israeli/American colony without a referendum, you cannot allow that person to stay in office. It doesn’t matter if the only other choice is Kevin Rudd. I speak for about 20+ million people when I say I would vote for a tennis ball with “NOT HOWARD” written on it if that was the only candidate available.

    It’s not that Rudd isn’t an idiot and most Australians know that. It is that John Howard is a confirmed internal subversive working for other governments and ignoring his own people except when election time approaches. You can fool most of the people all of the time, except about now. Australia has had enough of this a**hole. Period. I don’t care if he pretends to understand some free market economics and also feigns sympathy with sovereignty every time an election approaches. Nobody is falling for his little tricks anymore.

    If Howard’s opponent was Gumby or Noddy, it would be a no-brainer on election day. I’d vote for either. At least our nation would suffer or prosper at the hands of one of our own. Howard will be well taken care of in retirement by his handlers, he’s already been feted in both Zurich and in Tel Aviv for his services and stands to be rewarded handsomely after he leaves office. He will have nothing to be worried about unless like Judas he decides to throw his thirty pieces of silver into the street and hang himself.

    You can pretend these sentiments aren’t universal because the media doesn’t report them but that is the real situation we have now.

    Yes, Rudd will probably wreak havoc. We can kick him out afterwards, maybe we can even replace him with somebody sane. But Howard has to go, period.

  7. OJ
    October 26, 2007

    I don’t agree. In fact, the only thing that I can agree on is that most of the Australia public agrees with you.

    But I don’t.

    Howard will go… even if he gets re-elected. Costello will make a great PM compared to Tweedle-Dum and Tweedle-Dee (Rudd and Swan).

    But even if Howard wasn’t going to hand over to Costello during his next term I’d still vote for him. Rudd and Swan make my skin crawl, and with all due respect, if you think they’re going to do a better job than Howard then there’s something wrong with you :)

    Based on what you’ve said, you’re implying that you’d prefer our country to rot from the inside with Labour running the show regardless of how well the country is doing now. I think that’s a disappointing view for an Australian to have. The problem with that line of thinking, which is the same as Labour, is that it’s too self-centered.

    Unfortunately for me, Howard will probably lose the vote, and you’ll have the last laugh. But that doesn’t mean I’ll take back my view. I can’t stand Labour, nor the mugs that are running it.

    Thanks for your comment :)

  8. Vault-Co
    October 27, 2007

    … you say you can’t stand Labor (hardcore communism) but Howard will be a better leader (softsell fascism) as if it were a choice between a greater and lesser evil.

    Sorry, OJ, but both men are horribly evil and ultimately treasonous. Rudd is not a very bright chap who answers to Karl Marx, Howard a bright but wicked man who answers to foreigners.

    You claim the leader who regards us as his slaves will be a better choice than the moron who thinks we are his friends.

    I think like “V For Vendetta,” we need to use the one to deliver us up the other. Rudd will do nicely to get Howard out and then shortly thereafter if the Australian people keep the fire burning we can dump Rudd.

    I despise both men as my would-be masters and so I care nothing for either of them except as tools to hurt the other with. A lot of Australians would agree with me, that’s the motivation behind the groundswell against Howard.

    I can’t speak for native Australians but nobody in my family tree has ever been a slave. One of the reasons is that we have no regard for tyrants at all and do not think the rules of fair play apply when a man wants to dominate you and take away your 1400+ year old freedoms. We will use any trickery to dispose one monster, even if it means playing another as an ally. It seems a lot of the Australian public is starting to think like the freemen who constitute my gene pool.

  9. OJ
    October 27, 2007

    You needn’t apologise ;)

    You put a fair few words in my mouth there, as I in no way believe that Howard regards us as slaves. In fact I believe he loves this country more than Rudd.

    I agree, you have to pick the lesser of two evils, and in my view that’s Howard and not Rudd. Especially when Costello is in the pipeline. Even if I agreed with your comments about Howard, I’d still vote for him knowing that I could “put up with” another half-term with him in office knowing that Costello is coming. Costello is by far a superior candidate than Rudd.

    I also think that last paragraph you wrote is total codswallop :) (again, with all due respect, I’m not having a personal stab).

    Cheers mate.

  10. Vault-Co
    October 27, 2007

    It appears you continue to believe in the whole process as legitimate.

    Haven’t you ever wondered why you are always offered a choice between a tyrant and fool? Doesn’t that seem a bit convenient for you? Every election seems to come preloaded for defeat. That’s something to think about, isn’t it? It would appear you are offered candidates according to the preferences of people you will never meet. Aren’t you supposed to be able to elect leaders for yourselves, not choose in a plebiscite like the Soviet Union?

    During Howard’s era of government, nearly every single fundamental right under Common Law has been overturned at his direct instigation. You probably have no understanding of how much you have lost in the past ten years. John Howard has quietly, discreetly reduced you to the level of an animal and it is only now that Australians have begun to realize it. Malcolm Fraser mentioned it yesterday and even suggested it might be a chance for massive reforms of the tyranny we live under.

    I don’t know how much of this would sail over your head. Most people I know nowadays do not seem to know of anything that happened more than ten years ago. So they don’t miss what they will never realize they had previously inherited.

  11. OJ
    October 27, 2007

    So the entire election is rigged before it starts? Rudd is up as this year’s “idiot” while Howard is the “tyrant”?

    I think that’s balony.

    I think I do have an understanding of what has changed in the last 10 years, and it’s precisely that which makes me not want to go BACK to how it was before when dickheads like Keating were in government. That’s exactly what scares me about having Rudd as the leader.

    Best we leave it there me thinks ;)

  12. Vault-Co
    October 27, 2007

    Because you can’t dare imagine that it is rigged, that is why people more cunning than you will always determine the course of your life and decide on what you will and will not think about.

    How many times can the same people run the same game on you before you notice the pattern?

    Bush-Kerry? Howard-Lambert? Clinton-Dole? The first has been preselected to be your leader and the second selected precisely because he is unelectable. Right now in America it is supposed to be Hillary-Giuliani. Unfortunately neither is desired by the American people and never was. These people’s careers are funded, organized and propelled forward by money you don’t know about which didn’t come from the common man. Ron Paul is scaring the hell out of them over in America because he is outside the matrix and is a true wild card.

    Looks to me like the Australian people have decided to tear up the script they have been given and instead do the very thing they are engineered not to do. Elect the fool. Good on them. Funny how sometimes the animal instincts of the masses are vastly superior to the pretensions of intellectuals. We thinkers at the other end of the spectrum are notorious for finding common cause with them for this reason. It’s always the people in the middle who are exasperated that the peasants ever dare do anything but pull the lever they are supposed to.

  13. Vault-Co
    October 27, 2007

    Check this out from the U.S.

    http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N26366100.htm

    It’s a floor show. It’s performance art. The governments of the West nowadays are just staging dramatic theater all the time. It’s all to keep the poor rubes paying out tax revenues.

  14. Rob G
    October 30, 2007

    I must be very bored, because I’m actually taking time out to comment on politics - a cardinal rule I usually stick to as well. I felt somewhat compelled to comment here, and this irks me to a point because it means the b*stards got to me! The collective they actually managed to draw me out of hiding to take part in their stupid little (although catastrophic) game. Yes - be under no illusion - it is a game to them, and always has been. An ego-inflating, bigot-creating freak show designed to keep you distracted and absorbed in massive oceans of minute detail. You only have to read a single bill that goes to the vote to see that mountain of detail for yourself - it’s all b*llocks - merely there to saturate you.

    The second that you identify with either side, you’ve pledged your allegiance - they have you. The moment you make a statement of opinion: “he is an idiot, what utter drivel”, you’ve been suckered - they have you. As soon as you promote someone as having a modicum of interest in anyone but themselves, (not even Arnie could pull that off in California) - they have you. In fact, the minute you develop an opinion that leans one way or the other (notice they’ve only engineered two directions (candidates) in which your opinion could go ;-) ), - they have you!!

    Vault-Co is spot on when he says it is rigged – but it is rigged in such a way that the ones running the show cannot lose. They always have both candidates in their pockets. The same people (the ones who really have the brains – and money) have been performing a highly complex “Kansas City Shuffle” over the years by playing on both sides of the fence. By providing the illusion of choice for Joe Soap, they set about pitting anyone embroiled in the game against one another - even the so-called leaders are blinded by this illusion of choice. That’s why they fight for their corner so passionately - to a point where you either love or hate them - And then they have you!

    The whole point (read: agenda) of this game is to create a separation between people. And it is succeeding admirably as demonstrated by the comments I’ve read here so far. I personally can’t comment on Australia, as such, but the pattern remains the same all over the world as Vault-Co was quite right in pointing out, and I have no reason to believe it is any different there.

    You have two choices: Either you decide to play the game, going in fully conscious that it is in fact a (dangerous) game you can’t win – but only contribute to – just like the magnificent “V for Vendetta” did – if only someone (capable) like that really existed – there would truly be light at the end of the tunnel. The other option is to lift the wool veil completely. Vault-Co, you may have seen through parts of it (or all of it – how would I know?), but they’ve still managed to get you to take sides, i.e. choose between the lesser of two evils in your corner opinion. That may be because you have longer term delusions visions of trying to, as you say “use one to deliver up the other”- but what we should be realised is that it is the monster behind both sides that needs serving up on a platter. This cannot be done by taking sides with either the idiot or the oppressor. It can only be done by bringing back real choice – the one of choosing not to play this silly game at all – but it needs to be done en mass to be effective.

    If I were you OJ, I’d stick to the promise you made at the end of your article - it only adds fuel to the fire and creates a separation between people who would otherwise have good feelings towards each other. Exactly according to plan…

  15. OJ
    October 30, 2007

    There’s an implication that both you (Rob) and you (Vault-Co) have suggested in your posts that I have no idea about this stuff that you’re talking about. Let me just say: I do :)

    Notice that the only things that I said in my original post were that Kevin Rudd, as a person, makes my skin crawl. It wouldn’t matter if he was Liberal Party, Labour Party, Indy, or “Standing at the back dressed stupid and looking stupid” Party (for those blackadder fans), I would still despise him and the way he conducts himself.

    Voting in this country is mandatory, so I have to vote for someone. I am not the kind of person who likes to donkey vote as I don’t want to leave the voting in the hands of people who generally have no idea. So I’m going to make a valid vote. In that case, I’m going to make sure that whoever I vote for I prefer over the other guys. That’s the way it works. So, my view, is that Rudd is a slug, and I can’t stand him. It’s got nothing to do with the way the other party have made him out to be, it has nothing to do with the dirt that his opposition has dug up on him. It has everything to do with how HE conducts himself, and the smarmy way in which he thinks he’s the ducks nuts. I will not vote for him.

    So let’s all get past the “I know so much about politics and it’s a subliminal game” gubbins because we all know it already. Yes you’re all very smart, and all too clever to be “sucked in” by the powers that be, you’ll leave that to the other mindless idiot zombies out there who don’t know as much as you.

    At the end of the day, my point remains the same: Rudd is a snake. I can’t stand him. So I will vote for someone else who I think isn’t so bad.

    Thanks again for all of your comments.

    Lots of love to you and your little booties!
    OJ.xx :)

  16. OJ
    October 30, 2007

    I reckon we should call a halt there guys. Instead, let’s get back to discussing the pitfa… i mean features of Vista :D

  17. Vault-Co
    October 30, 2007

    Rob G. awesome post.

    Wow, what a shame, I thought that whole vigorous
    discussion was a lot of fun. :)

  18. OJ
    October 30, 2007

    It was a lot of fun :) I’m just suggesting we cut it short before it stops being fun ;)

Leave a comment

Size

Colors